The Children of Illegal Immigrants

I believe the young children who are born here are allowed to stay here even if their parents are deported.

Agreed. If they weren't born here, I'm sorry, but they need to go back.

NO AMNESTY. Follow the rules like everyone else.

If you are here illegally GO HOME NOW!!!!!!

Anchor babies or children brought here illegally (no matter the age) can stay with 3 conditions:

1. A LEGAL citizen or immigrant must take total responsibility for them. NO PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, FOOD STAMPS, WIC etc

2. They are not considered citizens and must go through everything a LEGAL immigrant must go through to stay her and/or become citizens.

3. They can NEVER petition to have the people that brought them here illegally OR gave birth to them to come here.

"As far as sponsoring anyone else to come here, I would say they can't sponsor anyone who has ever been deported for being here illegally, but maybe not prevent them from sponsoring someone who has never broken the law to come here."

That is almost exactly what I said. They can NEVER sponser the people who brought them here illegally or gave birth to them while here illegally to come here. They can sponser anyone else that has never been deported or broken the law.

Our elected officials are ONLY interested in votes and don't want to do anything that will lose them votes.

AMEN x 1000

It's unfortunate that children would be used essentially as human shields for the illegals who would enter illegally and have their kids here, so as to assure their ability to stay. I can come across as sounding racist sometimes with my anti-illegals rants, but frankly I don't consider them hispanics or foreigners, they're criminals to me. When you call them criminals, then your views change. I dont care if its white, black, yellow, red coming across that border. If they're doing so illegally and using their kids as shields, that's monstrously criminal to me. Take the kids away, and let someone more worthy and loving raise them. Long term it'll be better for the kids, despite short-term heartbreaks and hardships.

Many of the kids can begin the naturalization process if they were actually motivated. My Brother in law is one of the kids mentioned by the author, he's 21, he started the naturalization process almost 4 years ago, he was motivated to change his status. He's doing it the legal way. He should not get a simple free pass just because his parents entered illegally.
He was motivated enough to find out what his chances of becoming a citizen are, and then act to become a citizen. Marrying my sister isn't even helping him much in that regards because he had already started the paperwork.

I don't have a problem with legalizing the children, but citizenship should be off the table, imho. In fact, I can see legalizing the current population of illegal immigrants currently here. I don't like it, but I can see it being called for since we've been complicit in their being here in the first place.

Illegals can be legalized and can work and live out their lives here in peace. They don't need or deserve citizenship. Their children, born here, of course, are entitled to citizenship and all the rights and privileges that come with it.

Truth, that was part of the agreement of 86. Politicians can not be trusted in a "give me this and I"ll give you this later" agreement. Amnesty was granted in return for future implementation of stronger immigration laws and borders. The latter was never developed. 86 became simply Amnesty.

Good points, Jesse, but the '86 amnesty had provisions for citizenship. We should never grant a pathway to citizenship ever again just because someone was "successful" at illegal immigration.

Actually what we need to do is take care of our own legal citizens first, let the country of origin take care of the illegals

K. Snider

I agree with that, too Bob. Too many of our own citizens are being left in the cold while our benefits and services are given to illegal aliens...

As opposed to the benefits given to the Corporate Aristocrats and Department Of Offense.

Like I said, from a humanistic perspective. But cute labels like "anchor babies" are useful to dehumanize people. Like ragheads and the gooks before 'em.

we are a country of laws...............

VIVA-796465

we are a country of laws...............

You want to uphold the laws? Fine: put the owners of businesses who hire "illegals" in jail. If there are no opportunities for work the influx of immigration will drop. A lot. And be prepared to pay more for your groceries when these businesses need to pay an actual living wage to hire some good ol' Americans to replace them.

Oh, but money buys off "the law," doesn't it?

if you were born here then you are a US citizen and can stay,your family though has to go

If it were me I'd be pissed at my parents for NOT becoming legal so that we could stay here.

SO many illegals are here for YEARS and make NO effort to try to become legal, then feign outrage when they are deported. They brought it upon themselves. They should have thought ahead to what MIGHT happen to them, their families, and children if they are caught and deported.

If we can put ourselves in these young people's shoes...can we understand their feelings?

I can empathize with them, but that does not mean I side with them. Borders must be controlled.

It is too bad that they cannot move forward with it, it seems with the current Administration, votes are more important...twisted with political agenda...

K I sent you a group invite if you want it also...thanks...If not let me know, you are more than welcome to clip you articles there as long as they are in the realm of politics...thanks...

Thanks it is good to have you....

K good to have you around the vine............

Joanna Caroll

NO DREAM ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO MORE AMNESTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

They can start the process of being here legally. THEN they can dream.

If you are here illegally GO HOME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't look to this GOP group for solutions; they duck, run, hide and blame the other guy.

It's called RE-ENFORCING THE LAW.

What part of that don't you understand?

dirtyharriet1010, your comment suits you.

robynlewisTX...UGH! You understand that, right?

Joanna Caroll

If you want to support the ILLEGALS go right ahead. I DON'T.

They can dream when they are legal.

robynlewisTX...UGH! You understand that, right?

Coming from someone of your ilk? Yep!

If you want to support the ILLEGALS go right ahead

Well of course she does, until they turn America into another 3rd world @!$%#hole like Mexico, then she'll be BEGGING the government to protect her; and by then it will be too late.

The act caps out at 29. It is not amnesty, it is a 'path' to citizenship and it is rigorous. The GOP is calling for solutions - this is the solution. The GOP would rather talk about abortion and draft pledges....what's their latest pledge...protecting heterosexuals from harassment by gay married people?! WTF? Grown adults running for president signed that kind of pledge! Screaming "Ship them back," and total inaction is the GOP's answer to every problem.

If the democrats hadn't run spending up to the point we can't take care of our own, maybe we could be more tolerant of illegals, but now is not the time.

Joanna Caroll

"it is a 'path' to citizenship"

Their "path" is to start the process as soon as they can. I don't want my $s going to their education. Complete 4 years in the military with a good conduct discharge then we can talk.

They can go home and "dream of a path to citizenship". If they don't start the process asap they are no better than their ILLEGAL parents.

I don't want my $s going to their education

Dirty, you apparently don't know current law or the Dream Act. Not surprised at all by that.

Joanna -

Who pays for their education from kindergarten through 12th grade? MY TAX DOLLARS.

Do you think they pay for college tuition themselves? They get grants, scholarships and loans.

They get far more than my American citizen children got.

The act caps out at 29.

If they haven't done something to become LEGAL by the time they are 29 they never will. Then they are as criminal as their parents and maybe even more so since they have reaped the benefits of their parents criminal act.

Harriet, illegal children are entitled to an education in every state by law thru high school despite some lawmakers' attempts to change that law. Cite me an instance where an illegal high school student received a scholarship, a grant, a loan as an illegal? That's the problem - they go through the system and hit a dead end at college. Ship them back home is no solution. Someday in this country, when all the people are educated, get smarter, the answer will be the Dream Act. Until then, we're stuck with people who happily think a solution is written on a sign that says, "Go Home."

Several states -- Texas, California, New York, Utah, Illinois, Washington, Nebraska, New Mexico, Maryland (community colleges), Oklahoma, Wisconsin and Kansas -- have passed state laws providing in-state tuition benefits to illegal aliens who have attended high school in the state for three or more years. Similar legislation is pending in Florida, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia. (Connecticut also passed such a law, but the governor vetoed it.) The Nevada system of higher education does not consider immigration status for in-state tuition, but does require it for a state-sponsored scholarship. Also, some schools in Georgia provide in-state tuition benefits to illegal aliens. The Texas law also allows illegal aliens to receive state student financial aid.

http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/undocumented.phtml

robynlewisTX.

So in your mind, in-state tuition is a scholarship? Children who have lived in a state, have attended and graduated from that state's schools, should have to pay out-of-state tuition? Illogical and mean-spirited. NJ did fail to pass the law allowing in-state tuition which always surprises me; the matter is ongoing for years. Currently in NJ there's a case of an American teen who is denied aid because her mother is an illegal which kind of denies the "born here" rule of citizenship. But I'm surprised and glad Texas grants aid to any qualified student.

Joanna Caroll

As far as I am concerned ILLEGAL anythings are entitled to nothing, zero, nada, zilch.

They are CRIMINALS. Criminals deserve to be in jail or sent back where they came from if they entered the USA illegally.

Since you're SO concerned Jo, why don't pay for all the illegal's education?

We shouldn't be paying for ANY illegal to go to school. If they want to attend college they pay for it out of their OWN pockets, they way MANY Americans do. We should take precedent over them.

Nothing mean spirited about taking care of your own first.

We shouldn't be paying for ANY illegal to go to school. If they want to attend college they pay for it out of their OWN pockets, they way MANY Americans do

They do, they aren't qualified for grants or loans. So if they do make it to college, it is out of pocket. Being allowed to pay in-state tuition does not mean anyone is giving them money.

So, how did she go to ASU? I can't afford to send my children to ASU without the help of loans and grants. I can't imagine that her illegal alien parents could either.

Why would you make that assumption? Not every illegal works for base wages. There are a lot of high risk jobs that pay really well, a lot of illegals on those crews. Drive through TX and Oklahoma sometime and check out the crews that work in the oil fields. My brother in law was able to come in under a guest work program, he said his crew was about 1/2 and 1/2 legal - illegal. Those guys make over 80g a year.

Instead of getting a job she is spending all of her time planning protests and trying to get the laws changed so that she can stay in the country. She said she is risking being deported by "coming out of the shadows" but she has to do something or things will never change.

How about she goes and starts the process to make herself LEGAL.

If she was brought here as an infant and has now graduated ASU she has to be in her 20's. She is just looking for excuses. She would be one of the first that I would like to see deported.

If she was brought here as an infant and has now graduated ASU she has to be in her 20's. She is just looking for excuses. She would be one of the first that I would like to see deported

She probably has, but it takes years. We sponsored my brother in law 10 years ago. His permanent Visa is approved, but with the way the quota system works he keeps get pushed further down the line.

yup... funny stuff...
i also like to come to these types of seeds to add people to my ignore list...

closed minded fools abound...

I love to hear people argue for kicking people off of land that their ancestors stole at the point of a gun.

We did not! We used sharp objects to! Sheesh! Don't you know anything about scalping?